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If you’re passionate about podcasting, struggle with complex audio editing tools, or are eager to learn more about innovative technologies shaping the future of audio content creation, then this interview is a must-listen for you!

This exclusive interview with Armel Beaudry Kembe, the visionary creator behind Trebble.FM uncovers the inspiration and innovative features behind Trebble.FM, shedding light on how it’s revolutionizing the landscape of audio editing for spoken word content such as podcasts and audiobooks.

5 Key Take Aways from the Episode:

  1. How Treble.FM was inspired by the need for a simplified audio editing solution for content creators.
  2. The groundbreaking AI model that enhances audio quality, making recordings sound as if they were made in a studio.
  3. A preview of upcoming features including “Journeys,” an online audio listening experience creator revolutionizing the way we consume knowledge through audio.
  4. The user-friendly design philosophy of Treble.FM, offering a simple, efficient, and intuitive audio editing experience.
  5. Insider tips and walk-through for recording, importing, and editing audio with Treble.FM.

In recent years, the popularity of podcasts and audio content has skyrocketed. From true crime stories to educational shows, there is a podcast for everyone’s interests. However, creating and editing these audio files can be a tedious task for many. That’s where Trebble comes in – a new tool that simplifies the process of editing podcasts, audio and video content.

Inspiration behind Trebble.FM

Armel’s inspiration for Trebble stemmed from a genuine understanding of the challenges faced by content creators when it comes to audio editing. This realization led him to create a platform that simplifies the entire process, allowing for seamless editing, enhanced audio quality, and a user-friendly experience tailored specifically for spoken word content.

Key Features of the Tool is a user-friendly platform designed specifically for podcasters and audio content creators. With its intuitive interface and powerful features, it streamlines the editing process, making it accessible to both beginners and professionals alike.

One of the standout features of Trebble is its easy-to-use editing tools. Whether you want to cut filler words, trim unwanted sections, adjust the volume levels, noise cancellation, magic sound enhancement, or add background music, provides a range of options to enhance your audio content. 

Furthermore, offers an extensive library of royalty-free music and sound effects. So now you can quickly add intros, outros to produce your podcast episodes. You can even upload your own for use in your audio projects. 

Whether you’re a seasoned podcaster or just starting out, is the tool you need to simplify the editing process of your podcasts and audio content. 

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Zakia Ringgold [00:00:00]:

Welcome back to another episode of Business Tech Unraveled. I’m your host, Zakia Ringgold, and I’m so excited to dig into today’s topic with all of you. Now as a growing podcaster and content creator, I’ve always been on the lookout for tools that can help me to streamline my workflow, enhance my audio quality, ex and save me some time without needing to be a sound engineer. And when I tell you that I have found a gem, you are going to be blown away. Today, we’re not just talking about another tool. We’re talking about my secret weapon that has allowed me to cut my podcast and audio editing time in half, maybe more than that. So it’s a tool that I’ve grown to love and highly recommend to all of my fellow content creators out there, ex and it’s But here’s the best part.

Zakia Ringgold [00:01:02]:

You can see him if you’re watching. You’ll hear him in a moment. We don’t just have the pleasure of discussing Trebble today. We have the visionary behind it joining us. So allow me to introduce you to a true innovator in audio editing, the founder of Trebble FM, Armel. Welcome, Armel. Can you introduce yourself to the listeners for us?

Armel Beaudry Kembe [00:01:26]:

Absolutely, Zakia. Thank you for having me. And what a what a generous, introductions. I I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to do it better, but I’ll try. So, yeah, as you you mentioned, I’m the founder of Trebble. Ex in a nutshell, Trebble is really a platform that makes it easy for pretty much anyone to be able to create professional quality spoken word audio, whether it be a audiobook, a Podcast, of course. What whatever what what in any type of audio, really, with this person speaking. And so a little bit about myself, I’m I’m indulgent.

Armel [00:01:58]:

I’m a software engineer by trade. I worked for about 10 years in the software industry, building enterprise software for, For networking, companies and then I left to kinda start, my own thing, developed a couple products in the old years before into that sample on Trebble, the audio editor that you know and that you love. So that’s a little bit about me, but I’m not gonna ex to you right now.

Zakia Ringgold [00:02:25]:

Great. Great. We will definitely dive into it. Armel, thank you so much for being here with us. We are definitely going to try and dive deep into Trebble dot f m. That’s the origins, the incredible features, and the impact excited it’s making on not only the potty podcasting community, but audio and content creation overall. Because it it has done a little bit more than just audio. So let’s kick things off by going back to the origins of trouble.

Zakia Ringgold [00:02:57]:

How did the idea of Trebble come about? What inspired you to create it?

Armel [00:03:02]:

That’s a good question. So I’m gonna try to give you a short version of the story. So if I can I can make it short of that? So, I mentioned earlier that I developed multiple audio products before. And so I think the 1st product I developed was we, it was a a pod I would say a hosting service Mhmm. For publishing, podcast on Alexa and Google Assistant. I think I launched it in, like, 2018. It did okay, But one of the problems with it was the fact that, you know, people were, there was some lot of competition with Alexa and Google who’s ex directly competitive with your product. So I had a good idea to say, hey.

Armel [00:03:42]:

What I’ll be able to bring this kinda hosting company for mobile. So So just to kinda give you a better explanation. So the product I developed at the time was really a platform an online platform where you could go and record audio, But it was more short from audio. So under 10 minutes. So you can record it and you can publish it, but through our platform so people can listen to it on Alexa and Google Assistant. So then I brought that saying constant on mobile. So we had a mobile app where people can actually listen to the short form, ex short podcast. I’ll call it the let’s call it short cast.

Armel [00:04:20]:

So we’re we’re gonna listen to that content. And Some of the feedback we received at the time was that people wanted to get more content. So at the time, I tried to reach out to a bunch of influencers, creators, ex to increase it to create content, which actually I was able to get a lot of people to actually wanna create content. But what I what ex quickly came through was that a lot of people were like, hey. I wanna create content, but, you know, I’m not really sure how. It seems to be very difficult. And so I tried to convince people and, you know, it’s just ex People are starting, but then they’re always dropping because it was too much work. And I had a similar, experience when I was developing a very similar product.

Armel [00:04:58]:

Ex Again, it was at some point, we had to create content. And part of the creation or specifically the editing actually was the most challenging part. But I thought honestly, at at the time when I was I was having challenges getting people to edit and create content, I didn’t really realize that The biggest problem was actually the tools. And what really led me to understand that was that I got approached by a group of women, ex in their sixties, actually, it was an association with a woman in sixties that wanted to start a podcast. So they, got in touch with me through somebody that that I knew. Ex Hey. Would love for you to to, to do us a course on podcasting. And I thought, hey.

Armel [00:05:42]:

There’s plenty of places online to To start a pod to actually have to start a podcast. You don’t have to pay me to tell you how to start a podcast, but they really insisted. And they say, hey. We have, like, a government grant. It’s totally fine. Like, Don’t worry. Just take out money. So I said, okay.

Armel [00:05:55]:

Since this, I’ll take

Zakia Ringgold [00:05:56]:

your money. A dream client, by the way, Armel. Okay.

Armel [00:05:59]:

I I I didn’t want to, but it it really forced me to say I said, okay. So, anyway, so I created this whole, you know, course for them, a custom custom made course for them, where I show them how to, you know, prepare for, you know, doing a Guest interview how to, you know, how basically, the whole world for for creating a podcast. And, obviously, as I was showing them all those things, I had to show them how to edit their podcast. And at the time, I thought, okay. You know, there’s plenty of tools out there. So I started looking to what I could show them. Ex And, what I didn’t realize was that, you know, the best tool or the free best tool was Audacity. Ex So I was like, hey.

Armel [00:06:39]:

I’m gonna show that to them. It’s it’s you know, it’s not gonna be that much of a problem. You know? Keep in mind, I’d I’d ex I have some experience with audio in general, so I know a little bit how those software work. But as I was showing that to them, I realized I I had to give them a demo, Audacity, how to to cut, how to do this and that, how to use a software. And at that moment, I really realized, wow, this is a lot of work. And, it was sad because all there was a lot of work, I knew it was possible To make it very easy for people, it just it turns out that the tools that were made the majority of tool that were available on the market We’re really just made not just for podcasting, but also for music, for sound effect, for pretty much all type of audio. So, ex Audacity, which I think is a great example, probably the most popular tools out there for for editing audio. It’s a tool that’s not necessarily optimized for for spoken words or Podcasting, audiobook, any type of audio, what is a person speaking.

Armel [00:07:40]:

So, yeah. So, Anyway, just to come back to the story about the ladies I was I was teaching about podcasting, it really allowed me to open my eyes on the challenge that it was to actually create ex Content if you never if you didn’t have any experience. But I knew there was a way to make it better. And I honestly just said, hey. 1, we can say, hey. Let me let me give it a try. Let me if I can come up with a prototype and see, you know, how much effort it really is, to kinda maybe put something together because I was convinced it was it it could be easier. And, you know, I started building a prototype, showed a few people that I knew about in the industry, Got some very good feedback and, you know, kept showing it to more people, kept adding to the product, and trying to make it better.

Armel [00:08:23]:

And, you know, and now we’re here, honestly, I think it just kinda grew organically where I kept getting more and more feedback and more people interested in the product. And, Honestly, I’m I’m very happy about it because I realized how much, something like that was needed in the market. But, obviously, I had to experience firsthand. Yeah. Yeah.

Zakia Ringgold [00:08:41]:

Ex Nothing like your own like, you’re trying to teach people, and it’s supposed to be so simple, and then you’re like, wait a minute. This is a lot of work in, like, a eureka. And you had that eureka moment come through. So I think for the people who are watching the podcast interview, we are going to go through some of the features of Trebble and really how simple audio editing becomes by using the tool. For those of you who are listening, we will not forget about our audio audience. We will definitely make sure that we include, ex as much description as we can, but make sure that you watch the video, just so that you are clear. Alright. So as you can see or hear, when you first log in to the Trebble website, we are brought to our library, which shows us all of the content that we have either uploaded or the ability to create another ex short cast.

Zakia Ringgold [00:09:38]:

So, Arnel, there is something very simple and easy that comes through with the Trebble platform. Can you talk to us a little bit about the design aspect of, was that done intentionally or what you’re after with this for people when they’re first coming in.

Armel [00:09:58]:

That’s a good question. I think, the the design philosophy behind Interim is actually very simple. What we did with the product was we we took a step back and and thought of ex The use case that people usually go through when they’re trying to edit their audio, whether it be a podcast in the audiobook. And We really designed the the the user interface to make it very easy to do some of those things. So for example, You know, often when you you record audio and you wanna make some edits, the one the number one thing to do is delete certain part of the audio. Right? So make it easy to delete. Obviously people want to do things like you know maybe adding an intro or outro, make it very simple, making background, adding background music. So we really designed the interface so that is usually 1 or 2 clicks away to get what you need to do.

Armel [00:10:52]:

We make it very simple. One of the thing we also did as well was that we we didn’t really start from the traditional design that most audio software have. Right. So we we took a different approach, and that allows us to really make it simple for anybody to come on the product, but and not necessarily need any help because you can find ex They are one click away from what they actually wanna do. So I think that was a design philosophy. What we did as well is that we we we know that In professional software, for audio editing, there are a lot of things that people don’t know how to use that are actually useful. Ex And what we did instead of adding some of those youthful things, that most people don’t know how to do, we we basically go through, ex some of those features, and we just we make a decision to say, okay. Is this feature can this feature be useful to most people? Other people don’t know how to use it.

Armel [00:11:50]:

And then we’ll figure out a way to integrate it to our product, but in a way that is very easy to use. So I give an example. So for example, on Trebble, and I’m sure you probably show it later, we have a a way to remove background noise. Right? For example, I think on Audacity, if you wanna go back? Or no. You should probably have to go to 2 or 3 menus before you actually get to it. Then, you have to select, like, a part of the audio, to, you have to say the part of the audio to make it, visible and the part that that has the the audio that you want. I’m not sure if it’s something happened, but, anyway so I was just saying you you, yeah, you have to select the part of the audio that you want where there’s the background noise. Once you say that part, you have to to, I guess, to clip it.

Armel [00:12:35]:

I don’t exactly know the the system that they call it. But then you have to go to another part of the process where you have to say, I wanna move back on this for all this thing. If this sounds confusing, You you’re not wrong. This is because it is confusing to do with some of those software. See, on on instead of doing that with Trebble, You have a one button where you click and say, hey. I wanna remove background noise. And then we have a AI process that just goes in and just remove the background. Right.

Armel [00:13:02]:

So, that was probably a long winded answer to answer your question around the design philosophy. Where you just say, yes. We really took a a user approach where we ex focus on the use case that people wanna do. But also we know that there are a lot of things that users don’t know how to use, but that are useful for them to get quality content. And then we try to bring some of those useful professional features to everyday people sometime by, you know, tweaking the user interface or ex Sometime and this is a lot of what we’re doing now by using AI as a way to extract a lot of complexity.

Zakia Ringgold [00:13:34]:

Excellent. Excellent. And we are definitely going to get into that because I think what you started out by saying is that one click away philosophy, and that’s exactly what we get when we get in here. So if we go through the journey of someone actually creating content, if we we click on this little plus sign, maybe you come into an empty library because it’s your 1st time. There’s a little plus sign at the bottom, which allows you to either record or import. You wanna talk a little bit about this and why you decided to have both of those there?

Armel [00:14:08]:

Absolutely. I think you’re most people when they come in, they have 2 choices. So they either want to recall because they don’t have the audio, and then in this case, they ended up here. And you could click on the the microphone at the bottom, which allows them to start recording. There’s also a little at the top that says show notes so they can actually add some notes to help them with their recording. Maybe they’re reading through a script. This is very convenient if you ex Maybe recording, a voice over for a newsletter or for an article. You can just write your notes there.

Armel [00:14:40]:

And then when you’re ready to record, You just hit record, and then you can start recording.

Zakia Ringgold [00:14:45]:

Right? Excellent.

Armel [00:14:46]:

So when you click on the record button, you probably see a little timer That tells you, hey. You’re recording right now, like this one. So your timer goes in, and then now it’s capturing your voice. And then you have a volume meter at the bottom. It shows you how much time you have less to record. I think by default, it give you about an hour of audio per session. But, obviously, you can record as many time as you want. But So, yeah, you can keep recording like that.

Armel [00:15:09]:

And when when you’re happy you’re recording, you can just hit the the stop button to pause the recording. So this one

Zakia Ringgold [00:15:15]:

is first stop it? Ex okay. So what I was doing is demonstrating it, but there you go. I’m gonna delete that recording.

Armel [00:15:22]:

Yeah. You can also delete that recording. Here you go. And then you could go to the audio option. The other option, if you don’t wanna record, you already have existing audio file, then you can just go on the import mode. And then you can take your file, Drop it there in this little rectangle, and then you can use that file, for, creating or editing, ex d o u.

Zakia Ringgold [00:15:44]:

Got it. So I did go ahead and import that for our audio listeners. You’ll actually be able to just click that button and bring it in. And then once you do that, you simply click on the next button.

Armel [00:15:57]:

Yeah. So once we get to the next part the next step, this is really where the the magic happens. So you have 2 options. The first option, you can ex save the the file that you uploaded as it is, or you can actually go and transcribe and edit. So I suggest you click on the transcribe and edit button. So when you click on that transcribe and edit button I know you have to put that. I just listening, so I’m gonna try to kinda, like, sport cast it a little bit. So when you click on the transcribe and edit button, You see a drop down that allows you to choose which language you wanna use for the transcription.

Armel [00:16:29]:

So Trebble will let you pick the language. I think we, at the Moment support over 70 languages. So you can pick the language that is used in the recording that you just create or uploaded. Once you you choose the right language, you hit on transcribe, and then Trebble will go in and upload and transcribe your audio file. Usually, it doesn’t take too long. I think right now, we have, some fast transcription, which actually can transcribe within an hour of ordering, like, ex Less than a minute, which is pretty cool. So I’m

Zakia Ringgold [00:17:01]:

gonna stop my share only because I do believe I accidentally uploaded a very long video, which was an m p 4 and not necessarily an m p 3, so it may take a little while. So while that is doing that, thanks to the magic of Trebble. I will be able to go back and edit, quite a bit of that. Can you, talk about when people are importing, what are some of

Armel [00:17:27]:


Zakia Ringgold [00:17:27]:

things that, they should be aware of when you’re either recording directly within Trebble or Mhmm. Using that import. Are there any potential or best practices for when they’re doing that initial audio.

Armel [00:17:43]:

This is a tough question because the thing with Trebble, we really try to make it easy. So we, at the same time, we don’t wanna put Too many constraints on what you know, how to do things. But I I give a few guidelines, which We honestly, other I might give them today, but they might not be valid in the next in the next 6 months. So Because we’re trying to make it as as simple as possible. So I say the first thing that you wanna do, obviously, the the better When you upload a recording, especially if you’re recording, you wanna put yourself in the best recording condition that you can. That just ex If you can do that, it’ll be great. Right? So make sure that there’s not too much noise. You might you know, close from a for maybe a a road or something like that or, you know, in Conference.

Armel [00:18:29]:

There’s plenty of noises. If you can just make sure you’re you’re recording in great condition, it’s always the best option. If you have a microphone like I’m I’m using right now, that’s great. If you don’t, don’t sweat about it. Just you you can still use it. The other thing that I will say is, On when it comes to prerecorded audio, again, I don’t think there’s that many constraint. I think treble support, wav file, m p three file, OG file, a bunch of format. So you don’t have a lot of constraint.

Armel [00:18:56]:

I think the only constraint that we do have right now is that we only allow you to edit up to 90 minutes. We can work on kinda bumping that up. But I think right now, the main constraint that you have is really the time limit of, the ex that you’re uploading to Trevor. I think it’s up to 90 minutes for, audio. And I I might kinda like to see something that’s maybe a contribution, but we also allow you to edit video, and And we allow you to edit up to 30 minutes of video in 1 session. So those are the main constraint, that I can think of. But like I said, we always work on kind of extending some of those constraint and making sure people don’t actually have constraint because if you have to have constraint, then, you know, it Stresses, and you have to worry about a lot of things, but those are the few thing I can see at the moment.

Zakia Ringgold [00:19:39]:

Yeah. And I should mention, I said, oh, it might take a while. It didn’t take any time at all. As you went through that, it it showed right up on the page. So we went ahead and uploaded the file. So walk us through what it is that we’re seeing here once we get in and what some of those one click options are.

Armel [00:19:59]:

Absolutely. So now we we’re looking at the ex creamy. We’re right into the editor where the magic happens. On the we have a big square rectangle, ex box with a bunch of text. The text that we see on the screen here is really the transcription from your audio. If, and if you notice between this the the word, the little squares. So the squares are really just unrecognized that are between words. So they can be pauses.

Armel [00:20:28]:

They could be, you know, all the sounds that are not actually, spoken word. Ex Now this is what you see on the right on the left side of the screen. On the right side, we have a some kind of context menu. So every single time you click on a word or you have a ex context menu that shows up. That context menu allows you to, you know, make changes to the to the to the content. For example, the first button ex You see is to ignore. So if you see a section of the audio that you don’t want, you just select that section. If you hit ignore, you just, you know, just say ignore or delete that section.

Armel [00:21:10]:

You also have the ability to, if you select a part of text again, you have the next button that you see, says add background audio. This option really allows you to add music in a background. It’s very convenient if you just wanna do, No intro, outro. You wanna have some sounds playing in the background. And the cool thing with Trebble, as you can see on the screen as well, is that Trebble comes in directly with the library of license free music and sound effect that you can use. This is really convenient because of when we we create content, we We have to go maybe to another platform trying to find the music. Sometimes it’s licensed, so you have to pay for it. With travel, we already have music you can use Free of charge, so you can get access to it, search through different categories.

Armel [00:21:54]:

We also do have sound effects that you can use. So maybe you wanna ex Ring of a bell of a, you know there we go. Very loud. But yeah. So we we do have the mini sound that you can use, and you can add Two sounds in the background, was very nice. If you close this menu of your choosing, you can also upload your own audio, by the way. So you have your own music. It’s easy to upload that as well.

Armel [00:22:18]:

Now let’s let’s take another section of the audio. Just I wanna show you more more more things there. So the other thing that we have available, we can also insert sound, which is very different for the first maybe that I mentioned. The back inserting background, just put the the audio music in the background. The inserting really just gonna put the audio that you selected in the middle of the words. Right? So it is very convenient if, For example, you wanted to, have, like, I don’t know, like, a sound effect, in between when you were speaking. You just use that insert functionality.

Zakia Ringgold [00:22:52]:

Now would that be something that you did between 2 words? Like, for what you’re describing there, would you have that background or that audio just between 2 words, or could that be in an entire segment?

Armel [00:23:06]:

It could you can do both. It could be an entire segment. It doesn’t necessarily have to be so you can so if you add background, you can add background. The background can can span Depending on where you select. Like, in this case, for example, it it and it added between the you and the need. So, yeah. Now the other thing and then there’s a, like, a a a little context, 3 dots. You can play it, obviously.

Armel [00:23:40]:

So if you select a section of the audio, you can just kick Play the play button and we’ll play from that. How about music?

Zakia Ringgold [00:23:47]:

Sorry. I’m I’m pressing buttons here, guys. So it was just a matter of clicks.

Armel [00:23:52]:

It’s just a matter of clicks. So so but yeah. So you can play like, if you if you make a selection, you can play from that selection, which is why that ex the play button’s there. We also have the the more option. We basically show you a lot more things. So you can cut, copy, pace. You can correct the transcription. Sometimes it happened that the software make a few mistakes.

Armel [00:24:13]:

And once you’re very communicative, you can just go in and just, you know, change the word and just Hit correct. Let me just correct that. Now the other thing that you will see on the screen at the the bottom on this of the screen, We have a play button. Right? This is obviously where you if you wanna start the playback for many part of the audio, you just hit the play button, and you would just ex starting forever. The person was left. Now on the top, part of the the screen, we have a a toolbar, where you usually have a lot of things. So you can undo everything you do on Trebble, you can always undo or redo it, which is very convenient. Just like when you work with words, It makes it very simple to be able to make a change.

Armel [00:24:53]:

If you’re unhappy with the change, you can undo it or redo it. It allows you to kinda testing very quickly. You also have a search functionality, where you can search for words. So, for example, let’s say we search for need. You can search for the word need. I’m not sure how many instances. Only only 3 instances of the word. So you can see everywhere where the word shows up.

Armel [00:25:16]:

Actually, what I think is and you can go, hit the next the the hour to go up or down to go to the next occurrence of that word or not. It’s very convenient because if you’re searching for something, you can actually get to it very quickly. The other thing is you can also see this Something that looks like a microphone, but it’s it’s it’s gonna, like, cross right now. If you turn it if you click on that button, what this allows you is that now as you kinda move through different, search result. You Yeah. Could you please

Zakia Ringgold [00:25:44]:

It needs to be

Armel [00:25:46]:

which is really nice because

Zakia Ringgold [00:25:47]:

I’m so excited for you to be safe. Times. Excited. I said it so many times. It was just gonna keep playing through, so I had to stop it. I’m sorry to cut you off.

Armel [00:25:55]:

It’s all good. Yeah. So, anyway, I was just saying, You know, with that surge, you can also kinda go through the surge result, but you can listen to them, which is very convenient. So maybe you can share something else.

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:06]:

It needs to be you need to Yeah. I found every one.

Armel [00:26:12]:

All the, all the words that you see, which is really encouraging.

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:15]:

Right. But

Armel [00:26:16]:

and that’s

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:18]:

ex Yeah.

Armel [00:26:20]:

I don’t wanna interrupt you with while you’re playing with it, so I just

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:23]:

because I didn’t realize that tool was there, so it exquisitely proud

Armel [00:26:26]:

of it.

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:28]:

And you can play in your platform Yeah. To marketing platforms or marketing platform. Right platform. Ex email platform you decide. Email platform. Makes sense? Alright. I’ll stop. Okay.

Zakia Ringgold [00:26:42]:

There you go. Back to you, Armel.

Armel [00:26:44]:

Perfect. So you can search for words. Now the next menu on the toolbar is a magic one, and that’s usually where A lot of people spend a lot of time because that’s really where there’s a little magic here happening. So the and when you click on that magic one, you have a context menu that shows up. The first thing that you see, the button that says delete filler words. And if you click on it, it allows you to actually remove from the audio all the umms and the ahs. Very good for you. I actually happen to have no ums, which

Zakia Ringgold [00:27:15]:

is Unheard of.

Armel [00:27:16]:

Very unheard of. But I I guess,

Zakia Ringgold [00:27:18]:

ex Hey. You can hear me. Already edited one. I’m sorry. Yeah. This wasn’t a great

Armel [00:27:23]:

It’s all good. Yeah. It it’s all good. But ex So at the end of the day, if you happen to have audio where there are filler words like arms and ass, with that option, it allows you to easily Click on that button. It will automatically remove all the filler words. So super convenient when you need to use it. The second option, it says stream silences. So, obviously, when you when you record audio, You’re gonna have a lot of places where there’s just pauses like this one.

Armel [00:27:50]:

Right. And you don’t wanna initially kinda go in and how to find some of those places and to lead them. With this menu, you can actually just see how many how long you want your pauses to be. For example, like, the default option tell you this 3 squared, which I think is about 750 milliseconds. And then if you click on the trim button, you can make it You can make it larger or smaller. And if you click on the trim button, it will actually go and remove all the pauses in the audio, all the signs or the pauses that are longer The the the time that you selected. Right? So I think I don’t know how many was able to find, but

Zakia Ringgold [00:28:27]:

it’s It said 20.

Armel [00:28:27]:

All of

Zakia Ringgold [00:28:28]:

those It said 20 silences.

Armel [00:28:29]:

Exactly. So we’re able to quote off twenty ex of those silences. Now the the next option in our magic, you know, list of super cool tools, I’ll say, magic tools, is this Toggle that says it says noise cancellation. So as I mentioned earlier, this is really convenient because, you know, sometimes you you recorded your audio. There’s some background noise or you can Yeah. Your fridge in the background and things like that. With this button, all you have to do is just toggle that that switch on, And then you well, the next time you play, you automatically, you know, remove the background noise. It usually take a little bit of time the first time you you you play it, But then after that, you’re just gonna usually just play, with the backgrounds with background noise removed.

Armel [00:29:11]:

So if you hit play, you see the difference. Ex do you hit the oh, you have to hit the. Don’t don’t hit the

Zakia Ringgold [00:29:19]:

Is it done? This is Business Tech Unraveled, ex the podcast where I yep.

Armel [00:29:27]:

And you have a great voice, so it sounds good with the the noise removal. But, but yeah. So you you can remove all the background noise ex just by hitting that that switch. And then the last option, we we call it magic sound enhancer. And and this button really allows you to, be able to improve the the the the sonic or whether your voice or the music that’s added on the sound effects. So by default, it’s turned off because, depending on the board, depending on the sound effect, people might or might not like it. Ex That said, I have to say we we work on a few interesting things that maybe we’ll get into later that will make this, ex with this Optus feature even better than what it is today. Because the whole idea behind this this this this little menu is really to kinda help you Automatically, enhance the quality of your audio, whether it be music, a sound effect, or just your voice.

Armel [00:30:24]:

Right? So this is really what this menu is about. Ex Then the next menu on our toolbar looks like a a little eye, and it really just allows you to toggle the visibility of certain elements. So for example, You can toggle all the hide all the thing that you deleted by just toggling the the, you know, show ignore con show ignore content. You can also ex Remove all the word gaps, all the pauses, so you just ended up just seeing text. And then you can also, hide what we call, like, edit boundaries. So, Usually, when you cut audio on treble, it will show a lower line to say that between just to, notify you that those the words that you have in front of you were cut. So there’s no continuous, you know, it’s not a continuous, ex audio signal, basically. So you can turn that off if you don’t wanna see those those edit boundaries.

Armel [00:31:17]:

And also there’s a the ability to ex have the system to auto scroll, you actually listen. So you can turn all those thing on and off. Right? And the last thing on the menu is really the help. Obviously, we try to make it as easy as possible. But sometimes, just sometimes, you’re trying to find something that you can’t find. So we have a help section. Have a chat also where you can message me or somebody from the team if you have any question. You could we even allow you to book a session With me are somebody from the team to help you with any problem that you’re encountering, and we have a way for you to be able to request features that you don’t share in the product that you will love to see.

Armel [00:31:55]:

And that’s about it. I think I kinda did do my sport class. It was a little long. There was obviously a couple of things to come through, but hopefully, ex That gives a a better understanding of what what’s available in travel, but, yeah, I’ll kinda pause it for now.

Zakia Ringgold [00:32:08]:

Yeah. And I’m just gonna add in one of my favorite features is the cut and paste because that, for me, makes it feel like my normal routines when I’m editing a document. Right? So I can highlight this particular text here. And, hey, it may make more sense a little bit later in the podcast. I don’t have to go and find it on a timeline and kind of move it around. I can just use the same keyboard shortcuts, command x, and then I can put it where I want it to go and do a command v, and it has now moved that entire segment. That is my absolute well, removing of the silence and adding background music. So there’s a couple, but that was 1 I didn’t hear you, talk about I’m

Armel [00:32:54]:

so I’m so sorry. I I think I I think I should bring you to help with all the marketing for trouble because I I looked I looked at the demo, which is key. That looks amazing. But, yeah, as you said, I think one of the the beauty of the product is really what you just just showed is that, you know, if you wanna move part of the audio around, you can just Select the section of the audio and just use your command x or or control c if you’re on on on, on Windows to be able to copy or cut that part of the audio and then go command v or control v to paste it wherever else. So it makes it very, very simple. And, also, it’s it’s intuitive because ex Wanted on that you wanna know, most people have actually worked with with something like Microsoft Word, so it makes it very convenient to to edit.

Zakia Ringgold [00:33:36]:

Sure. And then the next part is just clicking next, and you can give it a title?

Armel [00:33:42]:

Exactly. So when you’re happy with your edits, Honestly, you added your background, your your music, your intro, your outro. You made a few changes, removed some filler words. When you’re happy with the result, you just go next, give it a title, maybe add some notes, and, yeah, that’s about it. You hit the finish button And then trouble going, take all your changes, and create, an audio file that has all the changes that you made. Ex it will create a MP3 file, but also create a WAV file. And I think at the moment, it allows you when you’re trying to use that audio later, it actually gives you WAV file. So yes.

Armel [00:34:21]:

So now we what we’re used to look at the screen, I guess, I I can keep, sport casting is you Trebble now takes all the change that you made, and you’re actually ex Rendering, all the changes into 1 single file, which is, again, very convenient. So ex A few things that I didn’t mention, which I I guess is a good point for me to show here, is that there’s a few things in the background that troubled the that, you know, most people wouldn’t see the noise all the time. So I’ll give you an example. So when you record your audio or you put it on Trebble, what Trebble also try to do is to make sure the audio is at the right volume. Most people don’t necessarily know that but if you have a podcast, there is a ex standard. There’s a recommended volume that your audio has to be on. I think if you have stereo stereo file, it should be around the minus 16 LUFS, which is just, some kind of a unit measure for, loudness. So when you upload or you record your order to Trebble and you render this file, Trebble will go in, for example, and make sure that your order is at the right volume.

Armel [00:35:24]:

Ex Right. There’s a few other things like that that Trebble does automatically. So when you make a cut, remember that the edit boundary is a little line that’s true between words. What Trebble would do as well is that every time there’s a cut, it will actually apply the cross fade between those cut just to make sure that the cut is sounds a little bit more smoother, and it’s not as noticeable. Again, just do that thing that usually professional people do. Mhmm. You know, everyday people don’t necessarily know how to do that. The Trebble do that automatically in the background.

Armel [00:35:52]:

I mean, the list is long, but there’s that one there’s a few things I want to mention that actually Trebble ex Do that’s automatic in the background, so you wouldn’t necessarily notice it. But some some way, somehow, you’re gonna feel like it it sounds better Because we do a lot a few things in the background to kinda have the quality of the the the the result. So I think we’re in the last step. So now it’s probably done with all your work. And, yeah, it saved it saved the the word that you created. Now when you your file is created like that, we have a few options. You can share it directly ex trouble if you wanted to, or share it online so you can use it as kind of a hosting, platform. But what most people often do is that they would take the audio, They would download it back, so they can use it for their podcast, their audiobook, or maybe they have, like, a course that they’re using it for.

Armel [00:36:41]:

So you can just come here, click the download audio, and it would download the file. Easy. You can also download the transcription. If you hit download transcription, it actually give you, a text file which all with all your transcription.

Zakia Ringgold [00:36:56]:

Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. And that’s exactly what I’ll do, the audio and the transcription. And I’ve started to do something with journeys. Do you wanna talk a little bit about that? Because that’s the that’s pretty much the workflow for what people would need to do. And it really I mean, we were talking through it, but, honestly, it takes about 5 to 10 minutes depending on how long your audio is. Trebble does really make it simple and seamless to do.

Zakia Ringgold [00:37:27]:

But there are some additional features where you can edit the details. You can duplicate it. Like, maybe there were some changes that you wanna make. Maybe, the file was too long and you wanna chop it up. Duplicate it. Edit it, and then you can do it all over again. And, so do you wanna talk about some of the upcoming features with Trebble?

Armel [00:37:47]:

I would I would I would love to talk about that. So of I I I just realized I’ve missed your point to to show something cool, but maybe I’ll we’ll get with later. But So you you briefly touched on the word journeys. So journeys is a new product that we’ve been kinda working on, behind the scene, and You have access to it so you you were trying to give us some feedback. So what journeys is in a nutshell? You can think of it as a as a online audio listening experience creator. The the the easiest way to put is think of it as a as a Platform for creating online audio course. And what’s really unique about Journeys is that it it makes it very, very easy ex to to share knowledge in information through audio. So the way it works, for example, you you have one here that you create a call From employee to entrepreneur.

Armel [00:38:42]:

And I’m just kinda reading out loud what I see here. It looks like you have a journey that, ex what the goal of the journey is to because every journey on Trebble has a goal. So your journey here is the goal of the journey is to ex strategic use of digital tools to grow your business online. So I’m gonna guess it’s a journey to help people to have businesses and kinda show them great tools that they can use to grow their business. And then in the journey description of journey, you also can explain, you know, what’s. I guess give some kinda ideas to people too about what you’re gonna cover during that journey. Now on the right side of the screen, ex You can see that the the journey has a Twitter. So Twitter is usually, a little intro about the journey when you talk about what you’re gonna talk True.

Armel [00:39:28]:

It’s it’s it’s kinda like a audio introduction, if you can think of it like that. Then you have the outline, which is really the the the meat of your journey. So ex They always organize into into days. Basically, every every audio piece that you add to your journey is a lesson, and then you can, you know, record it directly from travel, upload the existing file. You can edit it directly from travel, and then you can drop it here, ex to be part of your journey. So for example, in the journey that you’re showing us now here, you have a journey trader. You also have I think the 2nd lesson is setting your mindset for entrepreneurial ex your 1st step forward. That was a great title, by the way.

Armel [00:40:06]:

Interesting. I wanted to listen to it. And then in the 3rd part is establishing your online headquarters, ex why websites and software every businesses. So the the idea, again, our journey, if I just kinda keep it, short here for the listeners, it’s really A super simple and easy tool to allow you to create and share your knowledge or, your your yeah. Your knowledge through audio. It’s provide it’s it’s packaged, looking more like a a course. But what’s cool about Trebble is that you can create a diary everything directly into Trebble. You can publish it on Trebble and and share it through Trebble.

Armel [00:40:43]:

So people Trebble has a mobile app as well that people can use to consume that content. And what’s really cool is that when somebody comes in and they subscribe to that journey, they will get a notification every single time, somebody Just subscribe to to the journey. So we need to subscribe to the journey, and this is, like, a 5 day journey or 6 day journey. Every day for 6 days, you’ll get a email notification saying, hey. You know, go check out the the the lesson for this ex journey that you subscribed to. So now you’re showing us a little bit what it looks like in in real time. So, this one is one where I can see how it looks like. You can see the progress on the journey.

Armel [00:41:24]:

Looks like you you are the last of the journey. You already listened to 2 pieces. So, Yeah. It’s a very simple and easy tool for people to be able to create and share knowledge. And the cool thing about it, which I I would have forgot to mention, is the fact that You can create on Trebble completely free. You can offer it for free. We usually people use it more as a lead magnet, so maybe let’s and it’s very convenient. Let’s say you’re a coach.

Armel [00:41:46]:

Ex You might be a coach or or or business. Yeah. Any type of coach. This is a great tool for you to be able to to scale your business. Because you can use, Trebble with the journey to, I guess, package some of the thing that you you usually would give off for free or Oh, maybe talk to people here and there and then offer it on your website or on your social media as a lead mag magnet to collect emails. You can also Use journeys as a way just as a paid product. So Trebble allows you easily make your journey paid. And you can say, you know, miss, ex to get access to this journey.

Armel [00:42:23]:

We people have to pay $20. It’s also a great way for people that are, are business consultant or just business coaches to be able to scale their business Because it allows them to give a a lower price point, to people that might wanna engage with them, but that are not ready to pay for 200 or $300. So it’s a great set way to it’s a great opportunity to, you know, retain, get more people on the in the funnel of your business. And, hopefully, they can convert to be customers for your coaching business or any other type of business you have.

Zakia Ringgold [00:42:56]:

Fantastic. Fantastic. And so you actually answered the question I was gonna ask about, the evolution of trouble since it started, but this seems like one of those pieces that are in there. And I’m wondering you know, I’m always sending feature requests. But here’s 1. In terms of that outline, do you foresee the ability of being able to distinguish when those pieces of content right now, it’s incremental day 1, day 2, day 3? But I know some challenges they have it spread out where it’s on day 1 and then something on day 4. So do you think that’s something that possibly later could come down the line.

Armel [00:43:33]:

That that is certainly something we we we be open to kinda do. I think it’s really just, you know, making sure that this is a feature that, You know, a substantial amount of people would need. I don’t wanna feel like I’m the judge of anything, but I’m just saying, you No. It’s but, honestly, I can see how it could it could bring value to to some people. But, yeah, I think it it’s certainly an option.

Zakia Ringgold [00:43:55]:

Fantastic. Alrighty. Well, we have come to the end of our journey together here with but I always like to put everyone on the hot seat. And that is, what’s 1 question that you wish I would have asked you during the interview?

Armel [00:44:15]:

You asked me great questions. You actually asked me a question I don’t I don’t think I fully answered, so I’m gonna gonna use that to kinda answer. So you’re asking me what’s coming. I think you might have asked me what’s coming next for travel. Like, what where is this going? We do have a great product today, but we wanna be able to provide more. And I will tell you in the next the next 6 to 8 to 12 months for Trebble, you will see a lot of AI capabilities, all into kinda empowering people in easily editing audio or content in general. I can share a few other thing that we’re already working on. One, like I mentioned, is the ability to increase the quality of your recording.

Armel [00:44:58]:

So for example, right now, like, let’s say we were taking this this, this recording and you wanted to kinda publish as a as a As a podcast or something for social media, and I wasn’t using the microphone, the quality of the audio wouldn’t be as good. So we work on an AI model that will really take Any type of recording, especially the ones like this one, and we’ll make it sound like it was recorded in the studio. We’re also working on something that will allow you. Let’s say you made a a you know, let’s say I was I was I was talking to you 1 on on the call, and I made a mistake. I just wanted you didn’t want me to reedit, Receive a sentence, you’ll be able to easily change the transcription, and Trello will regenerate the audio matching the actual transcription. This is very convenient ex If, you know, somebody made a mistake or you wanna delete it, like, you know, they made a mistake and they wanna just quickly make that change, you can easily do that. The other thing that we’re working with, I’m super excited, is, around, helping people edit even faster. So you mentioned that, you know, when you edit audio today with travel, it saves you a lot of times.

Armel [00:46:05]:

But we we we figured that there’s ex always with AI that we can even make that process even faster. And I won’t spill the bean here, but but I’ll tell you. You you you probably If you had a hour of audio to edit, it might literally take you up, like, 2 to 3 minutes.

Zakia Ringgold [00:46:25]:


Armel [00:46:26]:

You edit it professionally. So, yeah, I won’t spill the beat here. Maybe it’s it’s a good opportunity from you to to get me again on the path to talk about it. Excited to hear that. To say we we work on a lot of AI capabilities, AI features to kinda really help enhance and speed the process of editing. We also work on a few things around, like, broadening, broadening the the The reach of the product, but, a lot of in the next 6 to 12 month, the we are going to announce a lot of AI capabilities. Ex

Zakia Ringgold [00:46:59]:

fantastic. I mean, that’s right in line. Every anybody who’s not doing anything in 2024 or beyond or now, ex That has to do with AI will be left. So I’m happy to hear that Trebble is kind of already pushing that, saying so. That’s pretty much all I have for today. This was fantastic, Armel. Thank you so much for coming. For those who are interested in getting your own copy of Trebble, we do have an affiliate link for it, which is linx.busineseteqlab.comforward/trouble.

Zakia Ringgold [00:47:38]:

But, Armel, can they connect with you anywhere on social or anything like that.

Armel [00:47:44]:

Absolutely. If you wanna connect with me, I am on LinkedIn. I’m on Twitter. I’m not the most active. I should be probably. If you wanna connect with me, it’s on on Twitter. I think it’s LinkedIn, you might be Ahmed Boudreaux as well, but then you should have stronger comments. You can always follow, Trebble on Twitter or, I guess, people call it now x.

Armel [00:48:11]:

I think if you just search for Trebble FM in one word ex to be you find Treval. You can also follow us on on, on LinkedIn if you wanna be able to receive more updates on some of the new features, some of the really interesting things that we’re working on. Yeah?

Zakia Ringgold [00:48:28]:

Excellent. Excellent. Thank you so much for joining us. All of the links that Armelle has mentioned will be in the show notes. And until next time, ex don’t get caught up with technology. You can unravel it and stick around because we have more coming on Business Tech